Hands up who bought it

It is interesting to look at the references at the end of the book.
- There are 24 books referenced
- with Kodokan anf IJF Magazines from 19550 to 1962
- in no referenced title does word Busen appear
- kata books referenced are
* Draeger and Otaki, Judo formal techiques
* Leggett, nage-no-kata (Demonstration of throws)
* Leggett, katame-no-kata (Demonstration of holds)
* Leggett, Juno-kata (Demonstration of gentleness)
* Kano, Kodokan Judo
* Kotani, Osawa and Hiroshi, Kata of Kodokan Judo
- top Kodokan Judo books referenced are
* Abe, Judo
* Inokuma and Sato, Best judo
* Kashiwazaki, Osaekomi
* Kurihara, Championship judo
* Mifune, Canon of Judo
- Judo History books
* Brousse and Matsumoto, Judo in the U.S.
* Kano, Mind over Muscle
- classical budo books
* Draeger
* Mol
* Nitobe
- wierd books for Kata
* Gracie, BJJ
* Mohizuki, Nihon den Ju jutsu
* Nakayama, the oneness of martial arts with medical arts
* Peligro, the Gracie way

So has anybody elsoe tried to separate Busen tradition from kodkokan Judo tradition.

As final reminder, in the final page the whole difference is 'finally' revealed.
- In Kodokan certificate it reads that the ... has trained himself absorbedly in the japanese traditional Kodokan Judo and acquired skill, we hereby award him ...
- In Busen certificate it reads that the ... Dai Nippon Butoku Kai established on the basis and spirit of eight martial arts, awards ..
So it comes down to what it reads in your certificate, not what you do on the mat

So no thoughts why in earth would someone in a book dedicated to 'Busen' judo Kata refer to books of BJJ?

finarashi wrote:So no thoughts why in earth would someone in a book dedicated to 'Busen' judo Kata refer to books of BJJ?

Maybe because one of the authors is involved in all possible martial arts himself? If you are not yet 40 and holding a load of black belts in judo, jujutsu, karate, yoseikan budo and aikido, aikibudo, iaido, kobudo, I wouldn't be able to see all differences clearly either...

So no thoughts why in earth would someone in a book dedicated to 'Busen' judo Kata refer only to most authoritative Kodokan kata books?

finarashi wrote:So no thoughts why in earth would someone in a book dedicated to 'Busen' judo Kata refer to books of BJJ?

You got me?

Mike

finarashi wrote:So no thoughts why in earth would someone in a book dedicated to 'Busen' judo Kata refer only to most authoritative Kodokan kata books?

If there would have existed authoritative books on 'Busen' judokata, this book wouldn't have been 'written'. Or?

And so, because of a complete lack of scientific proof of evidence in proper literature, the whole book is more a pamphlet, and no serious scientist or historian would accept it to be published.

It's however a shame for the Dutch Judo Association that they make a standard of a piece of loo paper. What's next?
Maybe I should write a book about Judo and the strategy to start a nuclear war, only referring to the works of Jigoro Kano?
There will always be someone who believes that judo is 'the violent way' after reading my pamphlet.

Meantime, there is also a 'review' (hmm we can also call it a k.o. blow ) from Cichorei Kano on 'the other forum'.


http://judoforum.com/index.php?showtopic=31201&st=36&p=442628&#entry442628


Nothing to add...

I contemplated buying it, but I'm glad I read Mitesco's review specifically (thanks!). When I get to the Ju-no-kata, I think I will purchase Fukuda-sensei's book.

Like I said on the other site, I'm getting more and more disappointed in the JBN and the key figures of it.

finarashi wrote:It is interesting to look at the references at the end of the book.
As final reminder, in the final page the whole difference is 'finally' revealed.
- In Kodokan certificate it reads that the ... has trained himself absorbedly in the japanese traditional Kodokan Judo and acquired skill, we hereby award him ...
- In Busen certificate it reads that the ... Dai Nippon Butoku Kai established on the basis and spirit of eight martial arts, awards ..
So it comes down to what it reads in your certificate, not what you do on the mat

I have certificates from both the Kodokan and the DNBK.

The translation of the Kodokan certificate is loosely correct (depends on dan level), the DNBK certificate says no such thing....